Post by ewsnead Post by Phoenix
Post by Podkayne Fries
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:36:54 +0200, "Nelson W.Staffer"
Post by Nelson W.Staffer
In my Church of Scientology founded by the only peerson ever lived who
was never wrong I saw the glowing, nirvanna, and reached full
exteriorization. Also once you are in it, meaning in my case the SO, you
are on a great easy 24/7 lifestyle, with kids your same age, sort of
like a combination of high school, college, monestary, military like,
castle, all rolled into one all so dedicated an honest and never ever
anybody lies to you or does you any wrong ever. But more lenient than
real strict military or monastic life. You even can have sex with your
Is this f'loon a real member of Co$ or just J. Random Troll?
Yes, but, it's a member pretending not to be a member pretending to be a member.
Yes, just like Julie Andrews, who once portrayed a woman who played the role
of a male cross-dresser in Blake Edward's send-up of cabaret society,
But what OSA-operative (OSA is the office of special affairs of the
church of scientology) Zinj tries to construct would be:
Julie Andrews (a woman) playing the role of a man, who plays the role
of a cross dresser but Julie Andrews would in fact be a man in the body
of a woman who dresses like a cross dresser and plays the role of a man
who plays the role of a cross dresser.
Post by ewsnead Post by Phoenix
Sound confusing? So is Scientology.
For further enlightenment, please read some of Truth Seeker's articles:
:: The Hitchhiker's Guide Through A.R.S. - Complete List Of Truth
Seeker's Articles About This Newsgroup ::
or try this link: http://tinyurl.com/g8jm7
:: A critics guide to Alt.Religion.Scientology - ( Please read the
original post in the thread ) - 06 :: http://tinyurl.com/jbf7e
Here is "A critics guide to Alt.Religion.Scientology" by Truth Seeker:
The following is a detailed description of the tactics the
church of scientology employs on this newsgroup in order to handle
Technique #1 - Try to keep the outside world from reading the
criticism in the first place.
The scientologists on this newsgroup try to accomplish this in 4
1. Try to bury the criticism with lots of news like posts. They feel
that if they can surround it with news like posts, nobody will ever
see it to begin with.
2. They make sure to always respond to the post that contains the
criticism so the reader only reads their ~response~ and not the
~original~ article containing the criticism.
3. Try to get the reader out of this newsgroup entirely by embedding
lots of web links in their response to the critical article. This way
if the reader is off someone at a web site he's not going to be here
on this newsgroup reading criticism of the church of scientology.
4. Try to have the person who wrote the offending article kicked off
the news server that he used to publish the critical article or have
his ISP shut his internet account down. They do this by having 5 or 10
of their church members send multiple complaints to the abuse
department of the news server or the ISP that the critical article was
posted from. They get the Internet Service Provider that the person
was using by the IP address that is embedded in the header information
of their posts. The take the IP address of the posting host and do a
DNS reverse lookup in order to find out who the ISP is. They then get
the abuse email address for the news server also from the header
information of the article that criticized their church. If you take a
look at the header information for any given news article, you will
see where IP address or "Posting host" is listed along with the
"***@xxxx.com" email address.
Technique #2 - Try to convince the readers of this newsgroup that the
person who wrote the articles isn't a critic at all but a
They believe that if they just get enough of their own agents all
accusing the critic of being a scientologist, the readers of this
newsgroup will believe it. It works off the principle that if 10
people tell you the same lie you will be more likely to believe it
than if just one person tells you a lie. So what they do is post under
10 different names, appearing to be 10 different people all saying
that the critic is a scientologist. The church of scientology believes
that people outside the church can easily be influenced by weight of
numbers, in other words, by peer pressure.
Technique #3 - Try to discredit the critic.
They try to do this by attacking the critic from different angles
with insults in an attempt to get the critic upset and angry. Their
hope is that he will get so upset that he will put up posts with
nothing but angry words in them which will make him look crazy to the
readers of the newsgroup.
Technique #4 - Try to waste your time.
They will try to get you into big long complicated conversations
that go nowhere. They will try to get you to explain this and explain
that. You will spend all you time trying to explaining everything and
answering all their dumb question that you don't have any time to
write more critical articles of the church of scientology. Of course,
this is exactly the reason why they do it. The joke about it is, even
if you do answer all their questions, they will just ask you the same
questions all over again at a later date.
Technique #5 - The Q and A.
"Q and A" means Question and Answer. In the church of scientology
it really means to question an answer. This means that the
scientologists on this newsgroup will ask you a question and whatever
answer you give, they will question it. The answer you give will never
be good enough and they will question it. This will cause the subject
of a conversation to keep changing and go on for miles and miles
without ever coming to a point or a resolution. This will also cause
the reader who is trying to follow the conversation to be confused and
not know what the conversation is about because the subject matter
Technique #6 - Play games with the communication cycle.
If you ever ask one of the scientologists on this newsgroup a
direct question, you rarely will get an answer from that specific
person you directed the question to, especially if your about to prove
a point or make the scientologist wrong. More than likely, the
response will come from one of the other scientologists on the
Ever try to have a conversation with 3 different people at the
same time? It's very hard isn't it? Well, that is what the
scientologists on this newsgroup are trying to re-create on this
newsgroup. For example, lets say you ask a question of one
scientologist, you get a response from another scientologist. Then
when you respond to the 2nd scientologist you get an answer from a 3rd
scientologists. To add more confusion to the situation, the 3rd
scientologist's answer has nothing to do with the subject of the
question. In this way they are trying to cause upset and frustration
in the critic. Here is an example of what I'm talking about. Let's say
you ask "Magoo" a question that will make "Magoo" wrong. Instead of
responding to your question, "Magoo" goes off and hides and you get an
response from "Barbz". When you ask "Barbz" why she responded to a
question meant for "Magoo" you won't get an answer back from "Barbz".
Instead you get a response to that question from "Zinj" and the
response "Zinj" gives isn't an answer to the question but just a bunch
of insults. In this way, they try to scramble the communication cycle
and hopefully scramble your mind in the process
Another technique they run is to give you an non-sequitur answer
to your question. In other words, to give an answer that had nothing
to do with the question. For example, if you asked a person what their
favorite color was and their answer was "7", that would be a
non-sequitur answer. "7" is the answer to a totally different
question. "7" is an answer to the question: "What is your favorite
number?" or "What's 5 + 2?".
Technique #7 - Alter the name the critic posts under.
L. Ron Hubbard taught them that the keynote to destruction is
"alter-isness" . For example, if you take a house and blow it up, you
have altered its form and therefore destroyed it. Even if you blow up
a house, the house is still there except it's form has been altered.
In an attempt to destroy you, the scientologists on this newsgroup
will alter the name you post under. For example, if you post under the
name of "Truth Seeker" they will start calling you "Toothie" or
"Trough Slurper" or "Turd Spewer".
Technique #8 - Name calling.
Yes, the scientologist on this newsgroup will dish out the
insults and put downs just like anyone else. They feel that if they
can hurt your feelings enough and associate enough pain with posting
criticism of their church, you will leave and not come back.
Technique #9 - Make the critic wrong.
The church of scientology feels that anyone who attacks them
could be an "SP" ( Suppressive Person ). The church of scientology
believes that if you make a "SP" wrong they he will get sick. So they
try to make the critic wrong in any way they possible can, even if
it's how they spell or their grammar. It seems as though they have
scientologists assigned to this newsgroup with just the purpose of
scanning a critic's posts looking for spelling and grammar mistakes.